NAPS Chat
Weekly Legislative Insights Podcast
NAPS Chat is a weekly podcast intended to inform NAPS members about the latest legislative and political goings-on within our nation’s capital.
Hosted by NAPS Director of Legislative and Political Affairs, Bob Levi, naps.rl@naps.org.
You can subscribe to NAPS Chat on iTunes and Spotify.
March 27, 2026 | Episode 240
Reflecting on the State of the Postal Service with NALC President Brian Renfroe
National Association of Letter Carriers President Brian Renfroe, joins Bob to discuss the postal outlook from the perspective of
the nation's largest postal union. Brian and Bob talk about the the necessity for unity among postal stakeholders to confront the daunting challenges confronting the USPS, as well as the
steadfast commitment the community must have to ensure the agency's public service obligations are not jettisoned. They also talk about the recent House postal hearings, postal finances and
the recent nomination of 3 individuals to the Postal Board of Governors.
NALC President Brian Renfroe
Episodes
- Epsiode 228 August 1 2025 -- "Reporting on the Federal and Postal Workforce" with Former Washington Post Columnist Joe Davidson
- Episode 229 August 20 2025 -- "Vote By Mail Under Attack"
- Episode 230 September 4 2025 -- "Congressional Postal Caucus Established"
- Episode 231 September 19 2025 -- "Serving Supervisors, Manages and Postmasters Through Legislative, Representational and Operational Advocacy"
- Episode 232 October 10 2025 -- "The Evolving Postal Retail Network: Are Post Office Still Essential?"
- Episode 233 November 5 2025 -- "Preparing for the 2025 Postal Service Health Benefits Plan Open Season"
- Epsiode 234 November 20 2025 -- "In the Midst of the 2025 Postal Service Health Benefits Plan Open Season"
- Epsiode 235 December 9 2025 -- "Best-Selling Author Steve Grant: A Love Letter to the Postal Service"
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Episode 201 January 5 2024 (with Rep. Nikki Budzinski
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Episode 202 January 26 2024 (with former Congresswoman Connie Morella)
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Episode 203 February 16 2024 -- "Postal Chat with Rep. Kweisi Mfume"
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Episode 204 March 7 2024 "Live from NAPS Legislative Conference" with Kevin Kosar, AEI Senior Fellow
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Episode 205 March 22 2024 (2nd Anniversary of the Postal Reform Act with Rep. Gerry Connolly)
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Episode 206 April 5, 2024 - "Reflecting on the 2024 Legislative Conference" with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore
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Episode 207 April 19 2024 - "Delivering for America Plan Under Senate Review" with Federal News Network Reporter Jory Heckman
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Episode 208 May 17 2024 "Conversation with PRC Chairman Michael Kubayanda)
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Episode 209 June 21 2024 - "Multi-Partisan Lobbying" with Frank MCarthy, CEO of McCarthy Advanced Consulting
- Episode 210 July 2 2024 - A Postal Patriot, Postmaster General John Creswell
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Episode 211 July 26 2024 - "Legislative Postal Snowball in the Summer" wiith Bob Levi
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Episode 212 August 19 2024 with Ashley Poling
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Episode 213 September 6 2024 -- "Repealing GPO -WEP: Ending Pension Discrimination" with Rep. Garret Graves (R-LA)
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Episode 214 September 27 2024 -- "Voting by Mail, An American Tradition" with Carrie Villar of the National Postal Museum
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Episode 215 October 16 2024 - "Welcoming the Postal Service's New Health Program" with Karla Kirby, Executive Manager of Postal
Service Health Benefits
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Episode 216 October 30 2024 -- "The 2024 Election" with NAPS Executive VP Chuck Mulidore
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Episode 217 November 11 2024 - "Inaugural PSHBP Open Season" with Jay Fritz of the Office of Personel Managment
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Episode 218 December 13 2024 -- "USPS Under Review" with Federal News Network Congressional Correspondent Jory Heckman
- Episode 219 December 24 2024 -- "Holiday History and Legislatuve Update" with NAPS Branch 32 President Robert Wakefield
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Episode 179 January 13 2023 (with NAPS Legislative & Political Affairs Director Bob Levi)
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Episode 180 January 20 2023 (with Steve Wermiel, Professor of Constitutional Law and Government at American
University Washington
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Episode 181 February 3 2023 (with Kevin Kosar, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute)
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Episode 182 February 10, 2023 (with CA Postal Legislative Coalition)
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Episode 183 February 24 2023 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 184 March 10 2023 (with Nick Reaves of the Yale Law School Free Exercise Clinic)
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Episode 185 March 24 2023 (Postal Police Officers Assn. President Frank Albergo)President
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Episode 186 April 14, 2023 (with NAPS Executive Vice Preisdent Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 187 April 28 2023 (with Karla Kirby, USPS Executive Manager for the Postal Service Health Benefits Program)
- Episode 188 May 19, 2023 (with NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs Bob Levi
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Episode 189 May 25 2023 (with Joy Sanzone of USPS Office of Inspector General)
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Episode 190 June 16 2023 (with PRC Commissioner Ann Fisher)
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Episode 191 July 14 2023 (with Rep. Pete Sessions)
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Episode 192 July 28 2023 (with NAPS Excutive VP Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 193 August 11 2023 (with Michael Plunkett, President and CEO of the Association for Postal Commerce
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Episode 194 September 8 2023 (with Tammy Flanagan, Founder of Retire Federal)
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Episode 195 September 22 2023 (with National Postal Museum Curator Lynn Heidelbaugh)
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Episode 196 October 6, 2023 (with Bob Levi, Director of Legislative & Political Affairs)
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Episode 197 October 27 2023 (with Former PRC Member Mark Acton)
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Episode 198 November 10 2023 (With Jay Fritz)
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Episode 199 December 8 2023 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
- Episode 200 December 22 2023 (with NARFE VP John Hatton)
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Episode 177 December 15, 2022 (with NAPS Michiana Area VP Kevin Trayer)
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Episode 176 December 9 2022 (with NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs)
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Episode 175 November 23 2022 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 174 November 14 2022 (with Jay Fritz, Office of Personnel Management Manager of Outreach and Program
Services
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Episode 173 November 4 2022 (with Tina Stoll, President of Campaign Finance Consultants)
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Episode 172 October 7 2022 (with NARFE Staff Vice President John Hatton)
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Episode 171 September 16 2022 (With Thomas Day, former USPS Senior Vice President for Government Relations)
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Episode 170 September 2 022 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 169 August 11 2022 ( with Kimberly Guice, Director of Curatorial Affairs of the National WW II Museum)
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Episode 168 August 4 2022 (with NAPS President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 167 July 22 2022 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 166 July 8, 2022 (with Eddie Monroy, Executive Director of the NextGen Chamber of Commerce)
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Episode 165 June 24 2022 (with Joseph Adelman, Professsor of History at Framingham State University)
- Episode 164 June 17 2022 (with Julia Kurnik, Director of Innvoation Startups at the Markets Institute of of the World Wildife Fu
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Episode 151 January 7 2022 (with Dr. Christopher Shaw, Center for Study of Responsive Law)
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Episode 152 January 21 (with Fran Kritz, veteran health care and health poilicy reporter)
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Episode 153 February 4 2022 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 154 February 11 2022 (with Ethan Van Ness, Senior Policy Advisor on the House Committee on Oversight
and Reform)
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Episode 155 february 25 2022 (with NAPS President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 156 March 11 2022 (with NAPS Excecutive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 157 March 18 2022 (with Annika Christensen, Professional Staff Member of the Senate Homeland Security
and Governmental A
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Episode 158 April 1 2022 (with NAPS Area Vice President Kelly McCartney)
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Episode 159 April 8 2022 (with Daniel Piazza, Curator at the National Postal Museum)
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Episode 160 April 15 2022 (with NAPS President Ivan Butts, Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore and
Secretary Treasurer Jimmy
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Episode 161 April 29 2022 (with NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs Bob Levi)
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Episode 162 May 13 2022 (iwth Katie Maddocks, Legislative & Political Director of the National Postal Mail
Handlers Union)
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Episode 163 June 10 2022 (with Kim Weaver, Federal Retirement Thrift Savings Investment Board)
- Episode 178 December 23 2022 (with Karen Young, publisher of the Postal Supervisor Magazine)
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Episode 149 December 10 2021 (with USPS Police Captain Butch Maynard, President of NAPS Branch 51)
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Episode 148 December 2 2021 (with Bill McAllister, Washington Correspondent for Linn's Stamp News)
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Episode 147 November 19 2021 (with NAPS Secretary/Treasurer James Warden)
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Episode 146 November 5 2021 (with Jay Fritz, OPM Manager for Outreach & Program Services)
- Episode 145 October 29 2021 (with PRC Vice Chairwoman Ashley Poling)
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Episode 144 October 15 2021 (with Rep. Bill Pacrell of New Jersey)
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Episode 143 October 8 2021 (with Bob Levi, NAPS Director of Legislative and Poltiical Affairs)
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Episode 142 October 1 2021 (with fomer NAPS President Louis Atkins)
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Episode 141 September 17 2021 (with Jeffrey Post, Senior Staff Member of the Senate Homeland Security and
Homeland Security Comm
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Episode 140 September 10 2021 (with Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 139 August 27 2021 (with NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 138 August 20 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 137 August 6 2021 (with Art Sackler, Executive Director of the Coalition for a 21st Century Postal
Service)
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Episode 136 July 30 2021 (with Rep. Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts)
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Episode 135 July 23 2021 (with NAPS Director of Legislative & Politcal Affairs Bob Levi)
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Episode 134 July 16 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 133 July 2 2021 (with Josh Shapiro, Attorney General for the State of Pennsylvania)
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Episode 132 June 25 2021 (with Marilyn Walton, NAPS Western Area Vice President )
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Episode 131 June 18 2021 (with Ann Strickland, NAPS Legislative Chair for Florida)
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Episode 130 June 11 2021 (with Bob Levi, NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs)
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Episode 129 June 4 2021 (with Bob Levi, NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs)
- Episode 128 May 28 2021 (with Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas)
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Episode 127 May 21 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 126 May 14 2021 (with Steve Hutkins, Administrator of SavethePost Office.com)
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Episode 125 May 7 2021 (with NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 124 April 30 2021 (with Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi of Illinois)
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Episode 123 April 23 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 122 April 9 2021 (iwth NAPS members Angie Hicks, Carl Walton, Jimmy Salmon,Steve Shawn.
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Episode 121 April 2 2021 (with AEI Resident Scholar Kevin Kosar)
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Episode 120 March 26 2021 (with NAPS Secretary Treasurer Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 119 March 19 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 118 March 12 2021 (with Jay Hibbard, Vice President of Government Relations for the Distilled Spirits
Council of the U.S
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Episode 117 March 5 2021 (with Art Sackler, Executive Drirector of the Coalition for a 21st Century Postal
Service)
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Episode 116 February 26 2021 (with NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 115 February 19 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 114 February 12 2021 (with Rep. Mondaire Jones of New York))
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Episode 113 February 5 2020 (with Rafe Morrissey, Vice President for Public Affairs of the Greeting Card
Association)
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Episode 112 January 29 2021 (with Biden Presidential Transition Team Member Jim Sauber)
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Episode 111 January 21 2021 (with Rep. Andy Levin of Michigan)
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Episode 110 January 15 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 109 January 8 2021 (with Congressman Jason Crow)
- Episode 150 December 17 2021 (with NAPS Executive Vice President Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 108 December 24 2020 (with Mark Fallon, President & CEO of the Berkshire Company)
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Episode 107 December 18 2020 (with Benjamin Franklin, first PMG of the United States)
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Episode 106 December 11 2020 (with NAPS Secretary Treasurer Chuck Mulidore)
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Episode 105 December 4 2020 (with Jay Fritz of the Office of Personel Management)
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Episode 104 November 26 2020 (with Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney)
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Episode 103 November 103 (with Rep. Sam Graves of Missouri)
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Episode 102 November 13 2020 (with NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 101 November 6 2020 (with Ivan Butts, NAPS Executive Vice President)
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Episode 100 October 30 2020 (with Dan Blair, former Postal Regualory Commission Chair)
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Episode 99 October 23 2020 (with Tom Davis, former chairman of the Hosue Committee on Government Reform)
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Episode 98 October 16 2020 (Guest; NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 97 October 9 2020 (Guest: Nationally-recognized Political Consultant Mark Mellman)
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Episode 96 October 2 2020 (With NAPS Director of Legislative & Political Affairs Bob Levi)
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Episode 95 September 25 2020 (Guest: Kevin Fogarty, Chief of Staff to Rep. Peter King of NY)
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Episode 94 September 18 2020 (Guest: Rep. Stephanie Murphy of Florida)
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Episode 93 September 11 2020 (Guest: NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 92 September 4 2020 (Guest: Rep. Rodney Davis of Illinois)
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Episode 91 August 28 2020 (Guest: Rep. Brenda Lawrence of Michigan))
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Episode 90 August 21 2020 (Guest:: Chris Shaw, Postal Author, Historian and Policy Analyst)
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Episode 89 August 14 2020 (Guest: NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 88 August 7 2020 (Guest: Mark Stephenson, Legislative Director of the House Committee on Oversight &
Reform)
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Episode 87 July 31 2020 (Guest: Tevi Troy, Presidential Scholar & Former White House Senior Staff Member)
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Episode 86 July 24 2020 (Guest: Sen. Susan Collins)
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Episode 85 July 17 2020 (Guest:: Ivan Butts, NAPS Executive Vice President)
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Episode 84 July 10 2020 (Guest: Mark Micali, Vice President of Government Affairs, the Nonprofit Alliance)
- Episode 83 July 3 2020 (Guest: Postal Historian Steve Kochersperger)
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Episode 82 June 26 2020 (Guest: Chuck Mulidore, NAPS SecretaryTreasurer)
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Episode 81 June 19 2020 (Guest: Rep. Jamie Raskin, Vice Chair of the Committee on House Administration)
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Episode 80 June 12, 2020 (Guest: Ivan Butts, NAPS Executive Vice President)
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Episode 79 June 5 2020 (Guest: Mark Acton of the Postal Regulatory Commisson)
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Episode 78 May 29 2020 (Guest: NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 77 May 22 2020 (With Bill McAllister, Washington correspondent for Linn's Stamp News)
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Episode 76 May 14 2020 (With Rep. Peter King, co-chair of Congressional Postal Preservation Caucus)
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Episode 75 May 8 2020 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 74 May 1 2020 (Congressional Preservation Caucus)
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Episode 73 April 24 2020 (With Charlie Moskowitz, Executive Vice President of the Signal Group)
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Episode 72 April 17 2020 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 71 April 8 2020 (With House Government Operation Subcommittee Chairman Gerry Connolly)
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Episode 70 April 3, 2020 (With NAPS Resident Officers
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Episode 69 March 27 2020 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 68 March 20 2020 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 67 March 13 2020 (With NAPS Legislative Training Seminar Participants)
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Episode 66 March 6 2020 (With NAPS Secretary Treasurer Chuck Mulidore and NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan
Butts)
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Episode 65 February 28 2020 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 64 February 14 2020 (With John Hatton, NARFE Director of Legislative and Political Affairs)
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Episode 63 February 7 2020 (With NAPS Legislative & Political Director Bob Levi)
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Episode 62 January 31 2020 (With Postal Supervisor Editor Karen Young and NAPS Coordinator of Social &
Digital Media Corina Mays
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Episode 61 January 24 2020 (With the Resident Officers of NAPS)
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Episode 60 January 17 2020 (With Kevin Kosar, Vice President of the R Street Institute)
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Episode 59 January 10 2020 (With NAPS Legislative & Poltical Director Bob Levi)
- Episode 58 January 3 2020 (With NAPS Executive VP Ivan Butts)
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Episode 57 December 20 2019 (with NAPS Resident Officers)
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Epiosde 56 December 13 2019 (With National Postal Museum Director Elliot Gruber)
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Episode 55 December 6 2019 (with Postal Regulatory Commission Vice Chair Michael Kubayanda)
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Episode 54 November 22 2019 (with NAPS Legal Counsel Bruce Moyer)
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Episode 53 November 15 2019 (with NAPS Resident Officers)
- Episode 52 November 8 2019 (with Jay Fritz, Program Manager for Healthcare and Insurance at the Office of Personnel Management)
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Episode 51 November 1 2019 (With Randy Broz, Co-Founder of Angerholzer Broz Consulting)
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Episode 50 October 24 2019 (With NAPS Executive Board Legislative Committee)
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Episode 49 October 17 2019 (Tribute to Rep. Elijah Cummings with Executive VP Ivan Butts)
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Episode 48 October 11 2019 (With NAPS Secretary-Treasurer Chuck Mulidore and Executive Officer
Manager/Membership Director Jovan
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Episode 47 October 4 2019 (With NAPS Legal Counsel Bruce Moyer)
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Episode 46 September 26 2019 (With Rep. Michael Bost of Illinois)
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Episode 45 September 20 2019 (With NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 44 September 13 2019 (With New PRC Commissioners Ann Fisher & Ashley Poling)
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Episode 43 September 6 2019 (With NAPS Secretary Treasurer Chuck Mulidore
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Episode 42 August 15 2019 (With NAPS President Brian Wagner, Executive VP Ivan Butts and Secretary-Treasurer
Chuck Mulidore
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Episode 41 August 8 2019 (With NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 40 August 1 2019 (With USPS Inspector General Tammy Whitcomb)
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Episode 39 July 26 2019 (With NAPS Executive VP Ivan Butts)
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Episode 38 July 19 2019 (With NAPS Legal Counsel Bruce Moyer)
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Episode 37 July 11 2019 (Executive VP Ivan Butts with Rep. Gerry Connolly of VA)
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Episode 36 July 4 2019 (On the National Mall with Postal Patriots)
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Episode 35 June 27 2019 (with USPS Board of Governors Vice Chair David Williams)
- Episode 34 June 21 2019
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Episode 18 March 1 2019 (NAPS Maryland Legislative Representative Tony Jones)Episode 19 March 8 2019 (Thrift Board Director of External Affairs Kim Weaver)Episode 20 March 15
2019 (NAPS LTS Participants)Episode 23 April 5 2019 (NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)Episode 23 April 5 2019 (NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)Episode 29 May 17 2019 (National Postal Mail Handlers Legislative & Political Director Bob Losi)Episode 33 June 13 2019 (With NAPS Executive VP Ivan Butts)
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Episode 32 June 6 2019 (with Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina)
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Episode 31 May 31 2019 (With NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 30 May 24 2019 (Julie Tagen, Chief of Staff of Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland)
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Episode 29 May 17 2019 (National Postal Mail Handlers Legislative & Political Director Bob Losi)
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Episode 28 May 10 2019 (with NAPS Executive VP Ivan Butts)
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Episode 27 May 3 2019 (NAPS Legal Counsel Bruce Moyer)
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Episode 26 April 25 2019 (Former Rep. John McHugh, currently chairman of the "Package Coalition")
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Episode 25 April 19 2019 (NALC Chief of Staff Jim Sauber)
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Episode 24 April 12 2019 (NARFE Vice President for Advocacy Jessica Klement)
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Episode 23 April 5 2019 (NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 22 March 29 2019 (R Street Institute Vice President for Policy Kevin Kosar)
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Episode 21 March 22 2019
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Episode 20 March 15 2019 (NAPS LTS Participants)
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Episode 19 March 8 2019 (Thrift Board Director of External Affairs Kim Weaver)
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Episode 18 March 1 2019 (NAPS Maryland Legislative Representative Tony Jones)
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Episode 17 February 22 2019 (NAPS President Brian Wagner)
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Episode 16 February 14 2019 (NAPS California Postal Coaltion Participants)
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Episode 15 February 7 2019 (Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence)
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Episode 14 Feb 1 2019 (NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts)
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Episode 13, Jan 25, 2019 (Postal Regulatory Commission Chairman Robert Taub)
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Episode 12, Jan 18, 2019 (NAPS Legal & Legislative Counsel Bruce Moyer)
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Episode 11 Jan 10 2019 (Members of Congress Jamie Raskin & Anne Kirkpatrick)
- Episode 10 Jan 4 2019 (NAPS Executive Vice President Ivan Butts and Members of Congress)